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'''Fausto Veranzio''' (''or'' Faust Vrancic)<ref> Pronounced in Croatian: Vranchic or Vrančić </ref> is another article on Wikipedia that exhibits [[Nationalistic Editing on Wikipedia|nationalistic editing]]. Fausto Veranzio was '''historically''' a citizen of the ''Republic of Venice'' in the 16th and 17th century. He does have a Croatian background through family lineage. He was a brilliant scientist in his day and is noted for his invention of the parachute.  
 
'''Fausto Veranzio''' (''or'' Faust Vrancic)<ref> Pronounced in Croatian: Vranchic or Vrančić </ref> is another article on Wikipedia that exhibits [[Nationalistic Editing on Wikipedia|nationalistic editing]]. Fausto Veranzio was '''historically''' a citizen of the ''Republic of Venice'' in the 16th and 17th century. He does have a Croatian background through family lineage. He was a brilliant scientist in his day and is noted for his invention of the parachute.  
 
{{Cquote|'''Wikipedia states''': '' ... he was a polymath and bishop from Croatia.'' <ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fausto_Veranzio|title=Wikipedia: Fausto Veranzio|date=[[2010]]|accessdate=2010-10-04}}</ref> (3rd of October 2010)}} It '''must''' be stated that this man was from the ''Republic of Venice'' not from Croatia, in fact Croatia did not exist as a sovereign state for at least three hundred years after his time.
 
{{Cquote|'''Wikipedia states''': '' ... he was a polymath and bishop from Croatia.'' <ref>{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fausto_Veranzio|title=Wikipedia: Fausto Veranzio|date=[[2010]]|accessdate=2010-10-04}}</ref> (3rd of October 2010)}} It '''must''' be stated that this man was from the ''Republic of Venice'' not from Croatia, in fact Croatia did not exist as a sovereign state for at least three hundred years after his time.
[[File:160px-Fausto Veranzio homo volans.jpg|thumb|right|270px|Fausto Veranzio parachute design]]
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[[File:160px-Fausto Veranzio homo volans.jpg|thumb|right|270px|Fausto Veranzio's parachute design]]
 
This is using Wikipedia for nationalistic propaganda and is not based on fact. It otherwise tainted a ''perfectly'' good article on this unique individual. Fausto was born in Sibenik circa 1551 in ''Dalmatia'',  a region of the Republic of Venice in todays modern Croatia. In the 19th century Dalmatia became a province of the [[Austria|Austro]]-Hungarian Empire (Dalmatia as a region, dates back to the Roman Empire).<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=j-0LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA158&dq=Roman+empire+province+Dalmatia&hl=en&ei=jfupTJO8JYuSuwO49cTJDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Roman%20empire%20province%20Dalmatia&f=false The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume 1] by Edward Gibbon (p158)</ref>
 
This is using Wikipedia for nationalistic propaganda and is not based on fact. It otherwise tainted a ''perfectly'' good article on this unique individual. Fausto was born in Sibenik circa 1551 in ''Dalmatia'',  a region of the Republic of Venice in todays modern Croatia. In the 19th century Dalmatia became a province of the [[Austria|Austro]]-Hungarian Empire (Dalmatia as a region, dates back to the Roman Empire).<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=j-0LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA158&dq=Roman+empire+province+Dalmatia&hl=en&ei=jfupTJO8JYuSuwO49cTJDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Roman%20empire%20province%20Dalmatia&f=false The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume 1] by Edward Gibbon (p158)</ref>
  
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*Venetian rule, established in 1420 when the king of Croatia, Ladislas of Naples, ceded the country (Dalmatia)  to the '''Venetian republic''', ended in 1797. This period was marked by Venetian warfare against the Turks. When the French gave Venice to [[Austria]] under the Treaty of Campo Formio (1797), '''Dalmatia''' became Austrian also; but in 1805, under the Treaty of Pressburg, Austria had to cede '''Dalmatia''' to Napoleon. It was returned to Austria after Napoleon’s fall and remained an Austrian crownland until 1918.
 
*Venetian rule, established in 1420 when the king of Croatia, Ladislas of Naples, ceded the country (Dalmatia)  to the '''Venetian republic''', ended in 1797. This period was marked by Venetian warfare against the Turks. When the French gave Venice to [[Austria]] under the Treaty of Campo Formio (1797), '''Dalmatia''' became Austrian also; but in 1805, under the Treaty of Pressburg, Austria had to cede '''Dalmatia''' to Napoleon. It was returned to Austria after Napoleon’s fall and remained an Austrian crownland until 1918.
 
*Finally, the Treaty of Rapallo (Nov. 12, 1920) between [[Italy]] and Yugoslavia gave all '''Dalmatia''' to the Yugoslavs except the mainland Zadar (Italian: Zara) enclave and the coastal islands of Cres, Losinj (Lussino), and Lastovo. <ref>'''Encyclopedia Britannica''': Dalmatia</ref>}}
 
*Finally, the Treaty of Rapallo (Nov. 12, 1920) between [[Italy]] and Yugoslavia gave all '''Dalmatia''' to the Yugoslavs except the mainland Zadar (Italian: Zara) enclave and the coastal islands of Cres, Losinj (Lussino), and Lastovo. <ref>'''Encyclopedia Britannica''': Dalmatia</ref>}}
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== References concerning Dalmatian ==
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====Sir John Gardner Wilkinson====
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Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (1797 – 1875) was an [[England|English]] traveller, writer and pioneer Egyptologist of the 19th century. He is often referred to as "the Father of British Egyptology". He was in Dubrovnik (then called Ragusa) in 1848, he wrote in his; Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina.Volume 1:
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{{Cquote|''Italian is spoken in all the seaports of Dalmatia, but the language of the country is a dialect of the Slavonic, which alone is used by peasants in the interior.'' <ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=eQIEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA4&dq=Sir+John+Gardner+Wilkinson+Italian+is+spoken+in+all+the+seaports+of+Dalmatia&hl=en&ei=qP6qTLiWJoPRcdXJ8KAE&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a journey to Mostar in Herzegovina.Volume 1] by Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (p4)</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Their language though gradually falling into Venetianisms of the other Dalmatians towns, still retains some of that pure Italian idiom, for which was always noted.'' <ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=UsYJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA362&dq=Sir+John+Gardner+Wilkinson+Their+language+through+gradually+falling+into+Venetianisms&hl=en&ei=MfyqTLCJHc_IcZnDhOoE&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a journey to Mostar in Herzegovina.Volume 1] by Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (p362)</ref>}}
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====Andrew Archibald Paton====
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Andrew Archibald Paton (1811 - 1874) was a British diplomat and writer from the 19 century. In 1861 he wrote in his; Researches on the Danube and the Adriatic: Or, Contributions to the Modern:{{Cquote|Signor Arneri (from Korcula) '''stated''': ''These three pears you see on the wall," said he, "are the arms of my family. Perussich (Piruzović)'' <ref>Otok Korčula (2nd edition) by Marinko Gjivoje, Zagreb 1969.
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* According to Marinko Gjivoje: Perussich is ''Piruzović''. (p46-p47)
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*The book outlines A-Z about the island of Korcula (Corzula), from traditions, history, culture to wildlife, politics & geography.</ref>'' was the name, when, in the earlier part of the fifteenth century, my ancestors  built this palace; so that, you see.''
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''I am Dalmatian. All the family, fathers, sons, and brothers, used to serve in the fleets of the Republic (Republic of Venice); but the hero of our race was Arneri Perussich, whose statue you see there, who fought, bled, and died at the Siege of Candia, whose memory was honoured by the Republic, and whose surviving family was liberally pensioned; so his name of our race. We became Arneri, and ceased to be Perussich.'' <ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=LUFlza-oCV0C&pg=PA164&dq=These+three+pears+you+see+on+the+wall,%22+said+he,+%22are+the+arms+of+my+family.+Perussich+was+the+name,&hl=en&ei=Q2NCTNiSCJLqvQO8y9DIDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=These%20three%20pears%20you%20see%20on%20the%20wall%2C%22%20said%20he%2C%20%22are%20the%20arms%20of%20my%20family.%20Perussich%20was%20the%20name%2C&f=false Researches on the Danube and the Adriatic:] by Andrew Archibald Paton. Chapter 4. The Dalmatian Archipelago.(p164)</ref>}}
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====Maude Holbach (a 1910 travel guide)====
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*Dalmatia-The Land Where East Meets West by Maude Holbach (a 1910 travel guide from COSIMO books and publications [[New York]] USA):
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{{Cquote|''Two hundred years later that, is, early in the tenth century you might have heard Slavish and Latin spoken had you walked in the streets of Ragusa (Dubrovnik), just as you hear Slavish and Italian''' today'''; for as times of peace followed times of war, the Greek and Roman inhabitants of Rausium intermarried with the surrounding Slavs, and so a mixed race sprang up, a people apart from the rest of Dalmatia.'' <ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=EcvNw81I3hkC&pg=PA121&dq=Dalmatia:+The+Land+Where+East+Meets+West+Slavish+and+Italian+today&hl=en&ei=J46dTKDEF4XOvQOT_PS4DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Dalmatia: The Land Where East Meets West] by Maude Holbach (p121)
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* "DALMATIA: The Land Where East Meets West is MAUDE M. HOLBACH's second book of travel in Eastern Europe. First published in 1910, this is an anthropological travel journal of an often-overlooked kingdom" [http://www.cosimobooks.com/cosimo/about.html Web site: www.cosimobooks.com]</ref>}}
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
*[[Directory:The Wikipedia Point of View#History|The Wikipedia Point of View]]
 
*[[Directory:The Wikipedia Point of View#History|The Wikipedia Point of View]]
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*[[Worst of Wikipedia]]
 
*[[Worst of Wikipedia]]
 
*[[Top 10 Reasons Not to Donate to Wikipedia]]
 
*[[Top 10 Reasons Not to Donate to Wikipedia]]
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[[File:160px-Fausto Veranzio Pentadictionarium.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Fausto Veranzio wrote a book on languages: ''"Dictionarium quinque nobilissimarum Europæ linguarum, Latinæ, Italicæ" (1595)'']]
 
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The case of '''Francesco Patrizi''', the Venetian philosopher, is a fine illustration of the nationalistic warfare that infests Wikipedia, and the inaccuracy and distortion and bias that follows as a result.
 
The case of '''Francesco Patrizi''', the Venetian philosopher, is a fine illustration of the nationalistic warfare that infests Wikipedia, and the inaccuracy and distortion and bias that follows as a result.
 
{{Cquote|'''Quote''' by Ocham-London, United Kingdom:''The problem becomes particularly acute in a place like [[Wikipedia]], where the only intellectual interest - that is to say, no intellectual interest at all - lies simply in a nationalistic dispute, in this case between [[Italy|Italians]] and Croatians.''}}  
 
{{Cquote|'''Quote''' by Ocham-London, United Kingdom:''The problem becomes particularly acute in a place like [[Wikipedia]], where the only intellectual interest - that is to say, no intellectual interest at all - lies simply in a nationalistic dispute, in this case between [[Italy|Italians]] and Croatians.''}}  
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Revision as of 12:14, 5 October 2010

This is about Wikipedia's article on Fausto Veranzio.

Fausto Veranzio (or Faust Vrancic)[1] is another article on Wikipedia that exhibits nationalistic editing. Fausto Veranzio was historically a citizen of the Republic of Venice in the 16th and 17th century. He does have a Croatian background through family lineage. He was a brilliant scientist in his day and is noted for his invention of the parachute.

Wikipedia states: ... he was a polymath and bishop from Croatia. [2] (3rd of October 2010)

It must be stated that this man was from the Republic of Venice not from Croatia, in fact Croatia did not exist as a sovereign state for at least three hundred years after his time.

Fausto Veranzio's parachute design

This is using Wikipedia for nationalistic propaganda and is not based on fact. It otherwise tainted a perfectly good article on this unique individual. Fausto was born in Sibenik circa 1551 in Dalmatia, a region of the Republic of Venice in todays modern Croatia. In the 19th century Dalmatia became a province of the Austro-Hungarian Empire (Dalmatia as a region, dates back to the Roman Empire).[3]

  • Encyclopedia Britannica-Dalmatia:
  • Venetian rule, established in 1420 when the king of Croatia, Ladislas of Naples, ceded the country (Dalmatia) to the Venetian republic, ended in 1797. This period was marked by Venetian warfare against the Turks. When the French gave Venice to Austria under the Treaty of Campo Formio (1797), Dalmatia became Austrian also; but in 1805, under the Treaty of Pressburg, Austria had to cede Dalmatia to Napoleon. It was returned to Austria after Napoleon’s fall and remained an Austrian crownland until 1918.
  • Finally, the Treaty of Rapallo (Nov. 12, 1920) between Italy and Yugoslavia gave all Dalmatia to the Yugoslavs except the mainland Zadar (Italian: Zara) enclave and the coastal islands of Cres, Losinj (Lussino), and Lastovo. [4]

References concerning Dalmatian

Sir John Gardner Wilkinson

Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (1797 – 1875) was an English traveller, writer and pioneer Egyptologist of the 19th century. He is often referred to as "the Father of British Egyptology". He was in Dubrovnik (then called Ragusa) in 1848, he wrote in his; Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina.Volume 1:

Italian is spoken in all the seaports of Dalmatia, but the language of the country is a dialect of the Slavonic, which alone is used by peasants in the interior. [5]
Their language though gradually falling into Venetianisms of the other Dalmatians towns, still retains some of that pure Italian idiom, for which was always noted. [6]

Andrew Archibald Paton

Andrew Archibald Paton (1811 - 1874) was a British diplomat and writer from the 19 century. In 1861 he wrote in his; Researches on the Danube and the Adriatic: Or, Contributions to the Modern:

Signor Arneri (from Korcula) stated: These three pears you see on the wall," said he, "are the arms of my family. Perussich (Piruzović) [7] was the name, when, in the earlier part of the fifteenth century, my ancestors built this palace; so that, you see.

I am Dalmatian. All the family, fathers, sons, and brothers, used to serve in the fleets of the Republic (Republic of Venice); but the hero of our race was Arneri Perussich, whose statue you see there, who fought, bled, and died at the Siege of Candia, whose memory was honoured by the Republic, and whose surviving family was liberally pensioned; so his name of our race. We became Arneri, and ceased to be Perussich. [8]

Maude Holbach (a 1910 travel guide)

  • Dalmatia-The Land Where East Meets West by Maude Holbach (a 1910 travel guide from COSIMO books and publications New York USA):
Two hundred years later that, is, early in the tenth century you might have heard Slavish and Latin spoken had you walked in the streets of Ragusa (Dubrovnik), just as you hear Slavish and Italian today; for as times of peace followed times of war, the Greek and Roman inhabitants of Rausium intermarried with the surrounding Slavs, and so a mixed race sprang up, a people apart from the rest of Dalmatia. [9]

See also

Fausto Veranzio wrote a book on languages: "Dictionarium quinque nobilissimarum Europæ linguarum, Latinæ, Italicæ" (1595)

References

  1. ^ Pronounced in Croatian: Vranchic or Vrančić
  2. ^ <templatestyles src="Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css"></templatestyles>"Wikipedia: Fausto Veranzio". 2010. Retrieved 2010-10-04. Check date values in: |date= (help)
  3. ^ The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume 1 by Edward Gibbon (p158)
  4. ^ Encyclopedia Britannica: Dalmatia
  5. ^ Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a journey to Mostar in Herzegovina.Volume 1 by Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (p4)
  6. ^ Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a journey to Mostar in Herzegovina.Volume 1 by Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (p362)
  7. ^ Otok Korčula (2nd edition) by Marinko Gjivoje, Zagreb 1969.
    • According to Marinko Gjivoje: Perussich is Piruzović. (p46-p47)
    • The book outlines A-Z about the island of Korcula (Corzula), from traditions, history, culture to wildlife, politics & geography.
  8. ^ Researches on the Danube and the Adriatic: by Andrew Archibald Paton. Chapter 4. The Dalmatian Archipelago.(p164)
  9. ^ Dalmatia: The Land Where East Meets West by Maude Holbach (p121)
    • "DALMATIA: The Land Where East Meets West is MAUDE M. HOLBACH's second book of travel in Eastern Europe. First published in 1910, this is an anthropological travel journal of an often-overlooked kingdom" Web site: www.cosimobooks.com

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The case of Francesco Patrizi, the Venetian philosopher, is a fine illustration of the nationalistic warfare that infests Wikipedia, and the inaccuracy and distortion and bias that follows as a result.

Quote by Ocham-London, United Kingdom:The problem becomes particularly acute in a place like Wikipedia, where the only intellectual interest - that is to say, no intellectual interest at all - lies simply in a nationalistic dispute, in this case between Italians and Croatians.

Fausto Veranzio design bridges.










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