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He thinks that in this vast plain where can maneuver an army in battle 's comes a fight and that, under the imposing pile of stone was buried the Doge Beato Antenonio beheaded (in 829 AD) is to that there would be [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=PRRoAAAAIAAJ&q=doge+Beato+Antenonio&dq=doge+Beato+Antenonio&hl=en&ei=4knRTerZKYjcvwPo0sifCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA Compte rendu (p.440)] | He thinks that in this vast plain where can maneuver an army in battle 's comes a fight and that, under the imposing pile of stone was buried the Doge Beato Antenonio beheaded (in 829 AD) is to that there would be [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=PRRoAAAAIAAJ&q=doge+Beato+Antenonio&dq=doge+Beato+Antenonio&hl=en&ei=4knRTerZKYjcvwPo0sifCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA Compte rendu (p.440)] | ||
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+ | VERY shortly after the departure of King Pepin from Rialto, Doge Beato degU Antenori either died and was buried with pomp in the Church of San Teodoro on the island, or was banished to Zara. Both fates have been recorded of him. One cannot say which is the true one. In any case, a Doge of a family more honourable than the degli Antenori was proclaimed before the year 811.[http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924030932812/cu31924030932812_djvu.txt "The doges of Venice"] | ||
== Blato == | == Blato == |
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The link for Korcula History is here !
There is a copy of the book at Harvard University. Print run from 1878 Link
- Title: Compendio storico dell' isola di Curzola
- Author: Nicolò Ostoich
- Publisher: tip. di G. Woditzka, 1878
- Original from: Harvard University
- Digitized: 23 Oct 2008
See also
Ancient Greek historians, Korcula and Nikola Ostojic
Question: Why would Ancient Greek historians write about a city on an island in the Adriatic? Furthermore why were they such powerful legends? There must be a story behind these legends. We have a confirmed colony on the island (Lumbarda Psephisma) and a mention of another colony, which has not been found yet.
Ancient Greek historians: Ditte, Compagoni, Darete and Phrygian below:
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The Ragusa Section
Original: ... col ' introduzione dei Rassiani a danni dell cattolicismo vollero soggiogare anco Curzola vicina, e percio ...
(col was originaly coll)
Google Translate: ... with the ' introduction of Rassiani to' damage of Catholicism took yet subduing nearby Korcula, and therefore...
The Croatian identity called Naši - meaning: The Us people
- Below taken from Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina by John Gardner Wilkinson. Published in 1848 (p33).
“ | Naski (ours) or Illirskee is a Slavonic Dialect.[2] | ” |
- Editors notes: Naski or in Croatian Naški. The š is pronounced sh.
This is a term (a pronoun) which is used to describe ones identity is quiet odd! There is archaeological evidence from 16 century where the Croatian identity was used. Stone writings in Zavalatica are dedicated to events from 889 AD. It describes a clash between the Slavic population and the Venetian army. Marinko Gjivoje wrote about the find in 1972. The stone writings uses: Hrvat Dalmatinac in its writings. Hrvat means Croatian in Slavic.[3]
Beato Antenonio
de Curzola. Dans une vallée exposée au soleil et nommée Dughipod, on voit, dit-il, « plusieurs gros amas de ... le doge décapité Beato Antenonio (en 829 de notre ère) ; c'est de là que serait venu le nom slave Ducelova gomilla, ... Congrès, international d'anthropologie et d'archéologie (p.440)
of Curzola. In a valley in summer and named Dughipod, you see, "he said," several large piles of ... Doge Beato Antenonio beheaded (in 829 AD), that's where the name would come Slavic Ducelova gomilla ...
Il pense que dans cette vaste plaine où peut manœuvrer une armée en bataille, s' est livré un combat et que sous l'imposant amas de pierres a été enseveli le doge décapité Beato Antenonio (en 829 de notre ère); c'est de là que serait ...
He thinks that in this vast plain where can maneuver an army in battle 's comes a fight and that, under the imposing pile of stone was buried the Doge Beato Antenonio beheaded (in 829 AD) is to that there would be Compte rendu (p.440)
CHAPTER II WOOERS OF THE ADRIATIC
A.D. 809 TO 960
VERY shortly after the departure of King Pepin from Rialto, Doge Beato degU Antenori either died and was buried with pomp in the Church of San Teodoro on the island, or was banished to Zara. Both fates have been recorded of him. One cannot say which is the true one. In any case, a Doge of a family more honourable than the degli Antenori was proclaimed before the year 811."The doges of Venice"
Blato
Interesting: Blato was called Blatta.
- In Romance Dalmatian bluta means wafer or host.
- In Croatian blato means mud.
Below taken from www.ikorculainfo.com-Blato:
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Penny cyclopaedia of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge
(Volume 8-Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge Great Britain - 1837)
“ | The majority of the inhabitants are descendants of the Sclavonian hordes, who invaded these parts in the seventh century and drove out the old inhabitants.The language of the country is the Herzogovine dialect of the Sclavonian, but Italian is the prevalent tongue among the well-educated classes, and is used in the public offices and courts. The remainder of the population is composed of Italins (about 40 000) who are spread throuhg the maritime towns and the sea coast [6] | ” |
Local folk song: Zbogom, Moja Bobovišća Vala
- Zbogom, Moja Bobovišća vala
- kad san kanta, sva is odavala
- Druga mladost kad bude kantati
- valo moja, nemoj odavati
- Zbogom, moje sve od Blata divnje
- s kojima san uźa pasat vrime
- (traditional)
Translation:
- Goodbye my Bobvisča bay
- When I sang ...
The issue of dates
The issue of dates is an interesting one. Historians from the 18th and 19th century place the arrival of the Slavs into the Western Balkans in the 7th century but the more modern research undertaken by scholars and archaeologists cannot confirm this. The arrival and settlement of the Slavs by some has now been thought to be more in the region of the 8th century or even early 9th century.
In my opinion they could be both correct. The first arrivals may have been with the Avars who were a nomadic people from Eurasian. This first wave of invasion would have been one of many in the region so the Romans would have abandoned their cities and towns (i.e. Epidaurum, Narona and Salona) and altogether their way of life. New cities were established with fortification. Cities such as Ragusa (today called Dubrovnik) and Spalatum later know as Spalato (today called Split). The cities that survived the invasions were fortified. The new arrivals would not have been significant enough to leave an historical footprint other than in the cities and towns of Roman Dalmatia where there remains physical evidence of attacks and raids.
The second wave appears to have been later but more gradual and slightly larger in numbers however nothing like the great wave of mass movement as describe by the 19th century Historians. By the time of the late 8th century and early 9th century their numbers were large enough to leave an historical footprint. This historical footprint would be the start of the written history as well as the recording of archaeological evidence. The historical footprint is one of settlement.
De Administrando Imperio & 0thers:
De Administrando Imperio (On the Governance of the Empire) by Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos is a book that was written between 948 and 952. It contains advice on running the empire as well as fighting foreign enemies. Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos was the emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire, sometimes known simply by its contemporaries as the Roman Empire. Today it is now know as The Byzantine Empire.
Porphyrogennetos would have written in terms of political identity rather than ethnicity. It was the Greco-Roman way. For a reader from the 10 century the book would have a different meaning than read by scholars from the 18th and 19th century.
References
- ^ Historical Compendium of the Island of Korcula by Nikola Ostojic (p6)
- ^ Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina by Sir John Gardner Wilkinson
- Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (October 5, 1797 – October 29, 1875) was an English traveller, writer and pioneer Egyptologist of the 19th century. He is often referred to as "the Father of British Egyptology".
- ^ History-Korcula.net Marko Marelic-S. Francisco-USA
- ^ Five centuries of Italian painting, 1300-1800: From the Collection of the Sarah Campbell Blaffer Foundation
- ^ www.ikorculainfo.com: Blato
- ^ Penny cyclopaedia of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge, Volume 8 by Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge (Great Britain) 1837