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====Pragmatic Maxim as Closure Principle====
 
====Pragmatic Maxim as Closure Principle====
  
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Consider what effects that might ''conceivably'' have practical bearings you ''conceive'' the objects of your ''conception'' to have.  Then, your ''conception'' of those effects is the whole of your ''conception'' of the object. (C.S. Peirce, CP 5.438).
 
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Inquiry Driven Systems : Note 23
 
 
 
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| Consider what effects that might conceivably have practical bearings you  
 
| conceive the objects of your conception to have.  Then, your conception
 
| of those effects is the whole of your conception of the object.
 
  
 
Consider the following attempts at interpretation:
 
Consider the following attempts at interpretation:
  
1.  Your concept of x is your concept of the practical effects of x.
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: Your concept of <math>x\!</math> is your concept of the practical effects of <math>x.\!</math>
  
 
Not exactly.  It seems a bit more like:
 
Not exactly.  It seems a bit more like:
  
2.  Your concept of x is your concept of your-conceived-practical-effects of x.
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: Your concept of <math>x\!</math> is your concept of your-conceived-practical-effects of <math>x.\!</math>
  
 
Converting to a third person point of view:
 
Converting to a third person point of view:
  
3.  j's concept of x is j's concept of j's-conceived-practical-effects of x.
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: <math>j\!</math>'s concept of <math>x\!</math> is <math>j\!</math>'s concept of <math>j\!</math>'s-conceived-practical-effects of <math>x.\!</math>
  
 
An ordinary closure principle looks like this:
 
An ordinary closure principle looks like this:
  
C(x) = C(C(x))
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: <math>C(x) = C(C(x))\!</math>
  
It is tempting to try and read the pragmatic maxim
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It is tempting to try and read the pragmatic maxim as if it had the following form, where <math>C\!</math> and <math>E\!</math> are supposed to be a 1-adic functions for "concept of" and "effects of", respectively.
as if it had the following form, where C and E are
 
supposed to be a 1-adic functions for "concept of"
 
and "effects of", respectively.
 
  
1-adic functional case:
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: 1-adic functional case:
  
C(x) = C(E(x))
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: <math>C(x) = C(E(x))\!</math>
  
 
But it is really more like:
 
But it is really more like:
  
2-adic functional case:
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: 2-adic functional case:
  
C(y, x) = C(y, E(y, x))
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: <math>C(y, x) = C(y, E(y, x))\!</math>
  
 
where:
 
where:
  
1.  y = you.
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: <math>y\!</math> = you.
  
2.  C(y, x) = the concept that you have of x.
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: <math>C(y, x)\!</math> = the concept that you have of <math>x.\!</math>
  
3.  E(y, x) = the effects that you know of x.
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: <math>E(y, x)\!</math> = the effects that you know of <math>x.\!</math>
  
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       x          C(y, x)
 
       x          C(y, x)
 
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       o------------>o
 
       o------------>o
 
     E(y, x)      C(y, E(y, x))
 
     E(y, x)      C(y, E(y, x))
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The concept that you have of <math>x\!</math> is the concept that you have of the effects that you know of <math>x.\!</math>
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It is also very likely that the functional interpretations will not do the trick, and that 3-adic relations will need to be used instead.
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'''Source.'''  [http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/suo/ontology/msg04316.html Jon Awbrey (08 Aug 2002), "Inquiry Driven Systems : Note 23", Ontology List, Peirce List].
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==Determination==
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# [http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/thrd63.html#02377 Jon Awbrey (May&ndash;Aug 2001), "Determination", Ontology List].
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# [http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-May/thread.html#489 Jon Awbrey (May 2001), "Determination", Arisbe List].
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# [http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-August/thread.html#942 Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Determination", Arisbe List].
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# [http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2004-December/thread.html#2197 Jon Awbrey (Dec 2004), "Determination", Inquiry List].
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==Logic As Semiotic==
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# [http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/thrd48.html#03070 Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Logic As Semiotic", Ontology List].
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# [http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-August/thread.html#844 Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Logic As Semiotic", Arisbe List].
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# [http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2004-December/thread.html#2219 Jon Awbrey (Dec 2004), "Logic As Semiotic", Inquiry List].
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==Inquiry Into Information==
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# [http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/thrd47.html#03172 Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Inquiry Into Information", Ontology List].
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# [http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2001-August/thread.html#935 Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Inquiry Into Information", Arisbe List].
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# [http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2004-December/thread.html#2229 Jon Awbrey (Dec 2004), "Inquiry Into Information", Inquiry List].
  
The concept that you have of x
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==Resources==
is the concept that you have of
 
the effects that you know of x.
 
  
It is also very likely that the functional interpretations will not
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* [http://www.iupui.edu/~peirce/writings/v2/w2/w2_06/v2_06.htm Peirce, C.S. (13 Nov 1867), "Upon Logical Comprehension and Extension"].
do the trick, and that 3-adic relations will need to be used instead.
 
  
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'''Source.'''  [http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/suo/ontology/msg04316.html Jon Awbrey (08 Aug 2002), Ontology List, Peirce List].
 

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Peircean Pragmata

Several recent blog postings have brought to mind a congeries of perennial themes out of Peirce. I am prompted to collect what old notes of mine I can glean off the Web, and — The Horror! The Horror! — maybe even plumb the verdimmerung depths of that old box of papyrus under the desk …

Peirce's Law : Tertia Datur And Non

Peirce's Law and the Pragmatic Maxim

Jacob Longshore conjectures a link between Peirce's Law and the Pragmatic Maxim.

  1. Peirce Lays Down The Law!
  2. Peirce's Pragmatic Law : A Conjecture
  3. Extensions on Peirce's Pragmatic Law
  4. Further Extensions : Out on the Leafy Edge
  5. Peirce's Pragmatic Law : The Point of It All

Jon Awbrey freely associates to Post N°3.

Pieces of the Puzzle

For the Time Being, a Sleightly Random Recap of Notes …

Pragmatic Maxim as Closure Principle

Consider what effects that might conceivably have practical bearings you conceive the objects of your conception to have. Then, your conception of those effects is the whole of your conception of the object. (C.S. Peirce, CP 5.438).

Consider the following attempts at interpretation:

Your concept of \(x\!\) is your concept of the practical effects of \(x.\!\)

Not exactly. It seems a bit more like:

Your concept of \(x\!\) is your concept of your-conceived-practical-effects of \(x.\!\)

Converting to a third person point of view:

\[j\!\]'s concept of \(x\!\) is \(j\!\)'s concept of \(j\!\)'s-conceived-practical-effects of \(x.\!\)

An ordinary closure principle looks like this:

\[C(x) = C(C(x))\!\]

It is tempting to try and read the pragmatic maxim as if it had the following form, where \(C\!\) and \(E\!\) are supposed to be a 1-adic functions for "concept of" and "effects of", respectively.

1-adic functional case:

\[C(x) = C(E(x))\!\]

But it is really more like:

2-adic functional case:

\[C(y, x) = C(y, E(y, x))\!\]

where:

\[y\!\] = you.

\[C(y, x)\!\] = the concept that you have of \(x.\!\)

\[E(y, x)\!\] = the effects that you know of \(x.\!\)

      x           C(y, x)
      o------------>o 
     /|\            ^  
    / | \           =
   /  |  \          =
  /   |   \         =
e_1  e_2  e_3       =
  \   |   /         =
   \  |  /          =
    \ | /           =
     \|/            =
      o------------>o
    E(y, x)       C(y, E(y, x))

The concept that you have of \(x\!\) is the concept that you have of the effects that you know of \(x.\!\)

It is also very likely that the functional interpretations will not do the trick, and that 3-adic relations will need to be used instead.

Source. Jon Awbrey (08 Aug 2002), "Inquiry Driven Systems : Note 23", Ontology List, Peirce List.

Determination

  1. Jon Awbrey (May–Aug 2001), "Determination", Ontology List.
  2. Jon Awbrey (May 2001), "Determination", Arisbe List.
  3. Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Determination", Arisbe List.
  4. Jon Awbrey (Dec 2004), "Determination", Inquiry List.

Logic As Semiotic

  1. Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Logic As Semiotic", Ontology List.
  2. Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Logic As Semiotic", Arisbe List.
  3. Jon Awbrey (Dec 2004), "Logic As Semiotic", Inquiry List.

Inquiry Into Information

  1. Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Inquiry Into Information", Ontology List.
  2. Jon Awbrey (Aug 2001), "Inquiry Into Information", Arisbe List.
  3. Jon Awbrey (Dec 2004), "Inquiry Into Information", Inquiry List.

Resources