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== Dictator Josip Broz Tito ==
 
== Dictator Josip Broz Tito ==
  
'''Wikipedia'''’s article on Dictator Josip Broz Tito is mostly Communist propaganda of the now defunct Communist Party of the former Yugoslavia. As it turns out Jimmy Wales has provided a perfect vehicle for propaganda of this type. The article is written by Editors from Croatia and supported by other Editors who have Communist leanings. It is written in a totally non-encyclopedic fashion and does not represent contemporary views. After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the former Yugoslavia, factual evidence has emerged that Josip Broz and his regime was responsible for executing mass murders, arrests and torture. The worst of these events was the notorious Bleiburg [http://books.google.com/books?id=ZK2WE_2H3UEC&pg=PA168&dq=Bleiburg+massacres&lr=#v=onepage&q=Bleiburg%20massacres&f=false] and Foibe massacres. One only has to mention Goli Otok, a notorious prison on the Croatian coast (former Yugoslavia’s Evil Island-Gulag). The terror campaign lasted for about twenty years until the regime introduced reforms in the 1960's.
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'''Wikipedia'''’s article on Dictator Josip Broz Tito [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito] is mostly Communist propaganda [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_propaganda] of the now defunct Communist Party of the former Yugoslavia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_Yugoslavia]. As it turns out Jimmy Wales has provided a perfect vehicle for propaganda of this type. The article is mainly written by Editors from Croatia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia] and supported by other Editors who have Communist leanings. It is written in a totally non-encyclopedic fashion and does not represent contemporary views. After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the former Yugoslavia, factual evidence has emerged that Josip Broz and his regime was responsible for executing mass murders, arrests and torture. The worst of these events was the notorious Bleiburg [http://books.google.com/books?id=ZK2WE_2H3UEC&pg=PA168&dq=Bleiburg+massacres&lr=#v=onepage&q=Bleiburg%20massacres&f=false] and Foibe massacres [http://miran.pecenik.com/ts/balkan/balkan6.htm]. One only has to mention Goli Otok [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goli_otok] , a notorious prison on the Croatian coast (former Yugoslavia’s Evil Island-Gulag). The terror campaign lasted for about twenty years until the regime introduced reforms in the 1960's.
  
Government of the Republic of Slovenia has commission a report study of communist crimes in the immediate post-war period. There work was completed in October 2009. Below is a Croatian Newspaper Jutarnji report on the matter:  
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Government of the Republic of Slovenia has commission a report study of communist crimes in the immediate post-war period. There work was completed in October 2009. Below is a Croatian Newspaper ''Jutarnji'' report on the matter:  
  
Jutarnji writes on the 01/10/2009 - '''100 000 Victims In 581 Mass Graves'''
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'''Jutarnji''' writes on the 01/10/2009 - '''100 000 Victims In 581 Mass Graves'''
  
 
:''"In Slovenia, three basic books came out needed for the study of communist crimes in the immediate post-war period. It specifies graves where liquidation and execution of prisoners of war were carried out in its territory.''
 
:''"In Slovenia, three basic books came out needed for the study of communist crimes in the immediate post-war period. It specifies graves where liquidation and execution of prisoners of war were carried out in its territory.''
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:''In this collection, in Slovenia, there was discovered and detected 581 mass graves in which, the author estimates about 100 000 victims in total. According to the research of Slovenian and Croatian historians, Partisans in Slovenia liquidated most of the Ustasa and home guard units. The Croats accounted for between 50 to 80 thousands casualties."'''
 
:''In this collection, in Slovenia, there was discovered and detected 581 mass graves in which, the author estimates about 100 000 victims in total. According to the research of Slovenian and Croatian historians, Partisans in Slovenia liquidated most of the Ustasa and home guard units. The Croats accounted for between 50 to 80 thousands casualties."'''
  
The factual evidence (above) has emerged that the Dictator Josip Broz Tito (the Commander of all Yugoslav Partisans/Communists during WW2) and his comrads were responsible for these Communist War Crimes. Wikipedia's article on this individual, just seems to gloss over the all above mentioned events, or just not '''mention''' at all.
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The factual evidence (above) has emerged that the Josip Broz (the Commander of all Yugoslav Partisans/Communists during WW2) and his comrads were responsible for these Communist War Crimes. Wikipedia's article on this individual, just seems to gloss over the all above mentioned events, or just not '''mention''' at all.
  
 
'''Note''': Joze Dezman is a Slovenian historian. He is currently the director of the ''National Museum of Contemporary History'' in Ljubljana, Slovenia [http://www.muzej-nz.si/eng/eng_o_muzeju.html].  
 
'''Note''': Joze Dezman is a Slovenian historian. He is currently the director of the ''National Museum of Contemporary History'' in Ljubljana, Slovenia [http://www.muzej-nz.si/eng/eng_o_muzeju.html].  
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The usage of [[Wikipedia]] as a tool for promoting this type of propaganda is second only to Google itself. It is quite possible that this came about due to the fact that other editors and Admin are simply uneducated in these matters. This exposes a major flaw in Wikipedia which is that ''“a group of editors can learn to work the system so they can promote their own point of view, so that the article will become a stated Wiki fact, and itself a piece of history".
 
The usage of [[Wikipedia]] as a tool for promoting this type of propaganda is second only to Google itself. It is quite possible that this came about due to the fact that other editors and Admin are simply uneducated in these matters. This exposes a major flaw in Wikipedia which is that ''“a group of editors can learn to work the system so they can promote their own point of view, so that the article will become a stated Wiki fact, and itself a piece of history".
  
Is Wikipedia taking on a darker tone? Where are the ethical & moral issues involved in creating a feel good story about Josip Broz.  
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Is Wikipedia taking on a darker tone? Where are the ethical & moral issues involved in creating a feel good story about Dictator Josip Broz- Tito.  
  
 
Additional: The article doesn't even mention his ''Cult of Personality'' or that Josip Broz's and his fellow communist were committing economic suicide in the 1960's and 70's.
 
Additional: The article doesn't even mention his ''Cult of Personality'' or that Josip Broz's and his fellow communist were committing economic suicide in the 1960's and 70's.
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'''''Testimony-Eye Witness:'''''
 
'''''Testimony-Eye Witness:'''''
  
*Mitja Ribicic -''' Internal Security''' of Former Yugoslavia: BBC 4 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kspj_4TcjOQ&feature=related]
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*Mitja Ribicic - [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kspj_4TcjOQ&feature=related]''' Internal Security''' of Former Yugoslavia: BBC 4
*Janez Stanovnik - Slovenia Politician & Economist/Former Yugoslav Partizan Commander [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sl&u=http://www.dobrojutro.net/novice/slovenija/janez_stanovnik_povojni_poboji_so_se_dogajali_pod_titovo_komando/125420&ei=7GTqSsjyBI7q6gOxl6nqCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=16&ved=0CDkQ7gEwDw&prev=/search%3Fq%3DJanez%2BStanovnik%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us]
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*Janez Stanovnik - [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sl&u=http://www.dobrojutro.net/novice/slovenija/janez_stanovnik_povojni_poboji_so_se_dogajali_pod_titovo_komando/125420&ei=7GTqSsjyBI7q6gOxl6nqCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=16&ved=0CDkQ7gEwDw&prev=/search%3Fq%3DJanez%2BStanovnik%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us] Slovenia Politician & Economist/Former Yugoslav Partizan Commander
*Ivan Supek - Croatian Physicist, Philosopher, Writer, Playwright, Peace Activist Humanist & former Yugoslav Partizan: BBC 4
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*Ivan Supek - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Supek] Croatian Physicist, Philosopher, Writer, Playwright, Peace Activist Humanist & former Yugoslav Partizan: BBC 4
*Simo Dubajic- Former Yugoslav Partizan Commander - "Life Sin and Remorse" [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://amac.hrvati-amac.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D889%26Itemid%3D128&ei=3GLqSuhSo5TrA-vj4PUL&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA0Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSimo%2BDubajic%2B%2522Zivot%2BGreh%2Bi%2BKajanje%2522%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us%26sa%3DX] ABC News [http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=7218132#at]
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*Simo Dubajic- [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://amac.hrvati-amac.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D889%26Itemid%3D128&ei=3GLqSuhSo5TrA-vj4PUL&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA0Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSimo%2BDubajic%2B%2522Zivot%2BGreh%2Bi%2BKajanje%2522%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us%26sa%3DX] Former Yugoslav Partizan Commander - "Life Sin and Remorse"  ABC News [http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=7218132#at]
*Josip Zoretic - Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok, [http://www.goliotok.com/]
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*Josip Zoretic - [http://www.goliotok.com/] Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok
 
*Vera Winter  – Economist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: BBC 4
 
*Vera Winter  – Economist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: BBC 4
 
* Alfred Pal - Artist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: BBC 4
 
* Alfred Pal - Artist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: BBC 4
  
*Frank Waddams-British Government (taken from R. J. Rummel: Death by Government)
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*Frank Waddams-'''British Government''' (taken from R. J. Rummel: Death by Government)
  
 
:''"Frank Waddams, a British representative who had lived outside of Belgrade, said he knew first hand of ten “concentration camps” and had talked with inmates from nearly all of them. “ The tale is always the same, he said “ Starvation, overcrowding, brutality and death condition, which make Dachau and Buchenwald mild by comparison. Many Slovenes who were released from Dachau at the end of the war came home only to find themselves in a Slovene camp within a few days. It is from these people that the news has come that the camps are worse than Dachau.” Out of a Slovene population of 1,200,000, Waddams believes that 20,000 to 30,000 were imprisoned."
 
:''"Frank Waddams, a British representative who had lived outside of Belgrade, said he knew first hand of ten “concentration camps” and had talked with inmates from nearly all of them. “ The tale is always the same, he said “ Starvation, overcrowding, brutality and death condition, which make Dachau and Buchenwald mild by comparison. Many Slovenes who were released from Dachau at the end of the war came home only to find themselves in a Slovene camp within a few days. It is from these people that the news has come that the camps are worse than Dachau.” Out of a Slovene population of 1,200,000, Waddams believes that 20,000 to 30,000 were imprisoned."
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*Encyclopaedia Britannica
 
*Encyclopaedia Britannica
 
*BBC-History  
 
*BBC-History  
*BBC 4
 
 
*Paul Hollander: Discontents: Postmodern and Postcommunist
 
*Paul Hollander: Discontents: Postmodern and Postcommunist
 
*David B. MacDonald: Identity Politics in the Age of Genocide-The Holocaust and Historical  
 
*David B. MacDonald: Identity Politics in the Age of Genocide-The Holocaust and Historical  
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==External links==
 
==External links==
*Croatian Government: Deputy PM and with Representatives of the Croatian society of Political Prisoners-Victims of Communism [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://www.vlada.hr/hr/naslovnica/priopcenja_za_javnost/2007/srpanj/potpredsjednica_kosor_s_predstavnicima_hrvatskog_drustva_politickih_zatvorenika_zrtava_komunizma&ei=QzLcSu7XIJDU6gPhyr2cBg&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&ved=0CBAQ7gEwAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhrvatska%2B%25C5%25BErtve%2Bkomunizma%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us]
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*Croatian Government: [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://www.vlada.hr/hr/naslovnica/priopcenja_za_javnost/2007/srpanj/potpredsjednica_kosor_s_predstavnicima_hrvatskog_drustva_politickih_zatvorenika_zrtava_komunizma&ei=QzLcSu7XIJDU6gPhyr2cBg&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&ved=0CBAQ7gEwAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhrvatska%2B%25C5%25BErtve%2Bkomunizma%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us] Deputy PM and with Representatives of the Croatian society of Political Prisoners-Victims of Communism
 
*Government of the Republic of Slovenia: Commission on Concealed Mass Graves in Slovenia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Concealed_Mass_Graves_in_Slovenia]
 
*Government of the Republic of Slovenia: Commission on Concealed Mass Graves in Slovenia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Concealed_Mass_Graves_in_Slovenia]
 
* Croatian Center for Research of Crimes of Communism [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://www.komunizam.hrvatskauljudba.hr/&ei=ozbcSoZih97oA9n34ZMG&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&ved=0CAgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DHrvatski%2Bcentar%2Bza%2Bistra%25C5%25BEivanje%2Bzlo%25C4%258Dina%2Bkomunizma%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us]
 
* Croatian Center for Research of Crimes of Communism [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://www.komunizam.hrvatskauljudba.hr/&ei=ozbcSoZih97oA9n34ZMG&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&ved=0CAgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DHrvatski%2Bcentar%2Bza%2Bistra%25C5%25BEivanje%2Bzlo%25C4%258Dina%2Bkomunizma%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us]
 
* National Museum of Contemporary History in Ljubljana - Slovenia
 
* National Museum of Contemporary History in Ljubljana - Slovenia
 
* Davis Center-USA [http://daviscenter.fas.harvard.edu/people/bio_hollander.html]
 
* Davis Center-USA [http://daviscenter.fas.harvard.edu/people/bio_hollander.html]
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*BBC 4
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*ABC News
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*New York Times
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*en.wikipedia.org

Revision as of 03:43, 4 November 2009

Dictator Josip Broz Tito

Wikipedia’s article on Dictator Josip Broz Tito [1] is mostly Communist propaganda [2] of the now defunct Communist Party of the former Yugoslavia [3]. As it turns out Jimmy Wales has provided a perfect vehicle for propaganda of this type. The article is mainly written by Editors from Croatia [4] and supported by other Editors who have Communist leanings. It is written in a totally non-encyclopedic fashion and does not represent contemporary views. After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the former Yugoslavia, factual evidence has emerged that Josip Broz and his regime was responsible for executing mass murders, arrests and torture. The worst of these events was the notorious Bleiburg [5] and Foibe massacres [6]. One only has to mention Goli Otok [7] , a notorious prison on the Croatian coast (former Yugoslavia’s Evil Island-Gulag). The terror campaign lasted for about twenty years until the regime introduced reforms in the 1960's.

Government of the Republic of Slovenia has commission a report study of communist crimes in the immediate post-war period. There work was completed in October 2009. Below is a Croatian Newspaper Jutarnji report on the matter:

Jutarnji writes on the 01/10/2009 - 100 000 Victims In 581 Mass Graves

"In Slovenia, three basic books came out needed for the study of communist crimes in the immediate post-war period. It specifies graves where liquidation and execution of prisoners of war were carried out in its territory.
This is a report by the Commission of the Government of the Republic of Slovenia for testing grave sites under the leadership of Joze Dezman and the historian Mitja Ferenc's works of the"Hidden in his Father Zakrito" and "“Prikrita Grobišča 60 let po Koncu Druge Svetovne Vojne”. 'The report of the Commission of the Government specifies the number of mass graves and victims and their nationality.
In this collection, in Slovenia, there was discovered and detected 581 mass graves in which, the author estimates about 100 000 victims in total. According to the research of Slovenian and Croatian historians, Partisans in Slovenia liquidated most of the Ustasa and home guard units. The Croats accounted for between 50 to 80 thousands casualties."'

The factual evidence (above) has emerged that the Josip Broz (the Commander of all Yugoslav Partisans/Communists during WW2) and his comrads were responsible for these Communist War Crimes. Wikipedia's article on this individual, just seems to gloss over the all above mentioned events, or just not mention at all.

Note: Joze Dezman is a Slovenian historian. He is currently the director of the National Museum of Contemporary History in Ljubljana, Slovenia [8].

The usage of Wikipedia as a tool for promoting this type of propaganda is second only to Google itself. It is quite possible that this came about due to the fact that other editors and Admin are simply uneducated in these matters. This exposes a major flaw in Wikipedia which is that “a group of editors can learn to work the system so they can promote their own point of view, so that the article will become a stated Wiki fact, and itself a piece of history".

Is Wikipedia taking on a darker tone? Where are the ethical & moral issues involved in creating a feel good story about Dictator Josip Broz- Tito.

Additional: The article doesn't even mention his Cult of Personality or that Josip Broz's and his fellow communist were committing economic suicide in the 1960's and 70's.

Factual statements on economic realities of Josip Broz and his fellow Communists:

  • Encyclopaedia Britannica states: "At his death, the state treasury was empty"
  • BBC UK/History by Tim Judah: "The economy was built on the shaky foundations of massive western loans."
  • Ivo Goldstein 'Croatia A History': "People could obtain so much free or for less than the market price (e.g. apartments) that they could be obtain without work."

The above states the failure in the economic management of Josip Broz and his fellow Communists of the former of Yugoslavia.

Note: Ivo Goldstein is a Professor at the University of Zagreb & former Director of the Institute for Croatian History of the University of Zagreb. Zagreb is the capital city of Croatia.

Testimony-Eye Witness:

  • Mitja Ribicic - [9] Internal Security of Former Yugoslavia: BBC 4
  • Janez Stanovnik - [10] Slovenia Politician & Economist/Former Yugoslav Partizan Commander
  • Ivan Supek - [11] Croatian Physicist, Philosopher, Writer, Playwright, Peace Activist Humanist & former Yugoslav Partizan: BBC 4
  • Simo Dubajic- [12] Former Yugoslav Partizan Commander - "Life Sin and Remorse" ABC News [13]
  • Josip Zoretic - [14] Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok
  • Vera Winter – Economist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: BBC 4
  • Alfred Pal - Artist/Political prisoner of the former Yugoslavia's most notorious prison, Goli Otok: BBC 4
  • Frank Waddams-British Government (taken from R. J. Rummel: Death by Government)
"Frank Waddams, a British representative who had lived outside of Belgrade, said he knew first hand of ten “concentration camps” and had talked with inmates from nearly all of them. “ The tale is always the same, he said “ Starvation, overcrowding, brutality and death condition, which make Dachau and Buchenwald mild by comparison. Many Slovenes who were released from Dachau at the end of the war came home only to find themselves in a Slovene camp within a few days. It is from these people that the news has come that the camps are worse than Dachau.” Out of a Slovene population of 1,200,000, Waddams believes that 20,000 to 30,000 were imprisoned."

Addtional:

  • New York Times: [15] Evolution in Europe; Piles of Bones in Yugoslavia Point to Partisan Massacres.
  • BBC News: [16] Italy-Croatia WWII Massacre Spat
  • Mail Online-Word News: [17] Gassed to Death: 300 victims of Yugoslavia's Communist Regime Found in Mass Grave
  • Bernard Meares: [18] The Foiba Story
  • Croatia's-Index Net: [19] Victims of Communist Regimes get Monument in Vodice
  • Croatia's-Javno: [20] Mass Grave Massacre Ordered By Josip Broz Tito
  • Croatia's-Moje Vjest: [21] On the Island Daksa Exhumed 48 Victims of Communism

References

  • Encyclopaedia Britannica
  • BBC-History
  • Paul Hollander: Discontents: Postmodern and Postcommunist
  • David B. MacDonald: Identity Politics in the Age of Genocide-The Holocaust and Historical
  • Ivo Goldstein: 'Croatia A History', a Mc Gill Queen’s University Press Publication
  • Zdravko Dizdar (Croatian Historian/Croatian Institute for History in Zagreb): Partisan and Communist Repression and Atrocities in Croatia, 1944th-1946th - Documents.
  • R. J. Rummel: Death by Government

External links

  • Croatian Government: [22] Deputy PM and with Representatives of the Croatian society of Political Prisoners-Victims of Communism
  • Government of the Republic of Slovenia: Commission on Concealed Mass Graves in Slovenia [23]
  • Croatian Center for Research of Crimes of Communism [24]
  • National Museum of Contemporary History in Ljubljana - Slovenia
  • Davis Center-USA [25]
  • BBC 4
  • ABC News
  • New York Times
  • en.wikipedia.org