User talk:MyWikiBiz

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I think Gregory it's the "div class". Just remove the div class capsule, the front and rear tags. That seemed to fix it for me. Wjhonson 22:39, 6 July 2008 (PDT)

Just wondering

Out of curiosity - why is the article I made, Music For Tourists, here? Not that I'm against it being copied over, just wondering why that particular article is here out of all the articles I've written (and all the articles on Wikipedia). Naerii 13:57, 25 July 2008 (PDT)

I don't know why that one, from among many others. Probably just caught a user's eye as being a good one for drawing traffic. Since it's a legal entity or trademarked product, I should probably move it to Directory space. Your authorship attribution is actually captured in the Edit history. Let me know if I can help some other way. According to MyWikiBiz "rules" the content is up for grabs until Chris Garneau or one of his authorized agents elects to take "ownership" of the page. -- MyWikiBiz 09:05, 27 July 2008 (PDT)

ha, thanks

Thanks for the welcome. :) Remi 14:07, 22 August 2008 (PDT)

Thanks

...for the welcome. Yes, and block and unblock would be appreciated..particularly if we can have several years of impassioned arguments in between. -Pete

Revenue

sharing! :) Emeseee 14:26, 28 September 2008 (PDT)

Blogapro

Hi Greg,

Hopefully, you remember me? I wrote a post about mywikibiz on my blog: http://www.blogapro.com/2008/09/09/mywikibiz-author-your-own-legacy/

I was just wanting to thank you for your tips by the way.

I'm most impressed with the wiki, so much so, that I've taken the time this weekend to completely redo my own wiki page as can be seen in the following link. http://www.mywikibiz.com/Directory:Gavin_Smith

Regards,

Gavin

Gavin, I'm glad that you're impressed. I hope you'll tell others, because the only way we're going to really take off is if we build a viral wave of some sort. Sites like Wikia and AboutUs are going to leave MyWikiBiz in the dust, unless folks start to realize the two advantages here -- semantic web notation that helps search engine results, and self-paying advertising in protected space. Otherwise, we're just "another wiki". -- MyWikiBiz 20:30, 28 September 2008 (PDT)

Gmail

Hey Greg - Just wondering if gmail has been down for you today. --OmniMediaGroup 11:14, 30 September 2008 (PDT)

No observable problems on my end. -- MyWikiBiz 12:23, 30 September 2008 (PDT)

Hi

You are Thekohser +/- any affiliates of his, right? Anyway, good job. I was only wanting to comment on your idea for a new improved Wikipedia Review. I don't know if you will pay attention to what I said at all. I do think that WR wasn't ideal, but I do not think that multiplaying (sock puppeting, whatever you want to call it) was an issue. Rather, I think that they allowed too many people in, people whose sole aim was to destroy the site - Wikipedia administrators and other people that think that there is nothing whatsoever wrong with Wikipedia. IMO such people should never have been allowed in. The Poetlister incident proved that we should listen to ED more as they are at times a good resource, and that we were for the most part right the whole way along, that Poetlister was a good, helpful user who was roleplaying online, like most everyone does. We don't need a solution by people using real names, as that can create more problems than it solves. I think that that would be dangerous. Rather, you need to keep with WR's ideas to allow people the choice. Choice is important. There is no need, however, to allow people in who are only aiming to destroy the site. Let them do that on Wikipedia sites or the like. Most importantly, however, get rid of the power struggle element. I don't care if Igor Alexander was satan himself - he founded the site and he should be able to keep going to his own site. Founding members shouldn't be able to be banned, period. It is just wrong on so many levels to do that, to steal a site, and those bans against good people are a big part of what went wrong with the site.

With that being said, WR was and still is a resounding success. It has created a big warning label, it has achieved overall in spite of the problems. It has made a difference to how people view Wikipedia, which was the aim.

I am concerned that a new site may either move too far away from WR's original aims and hence make a bad site, or that they may fail to deal with WR's problems.

As for MyWikiBiz, you know, per my user page, that I originally objected to it, and even encouraged for them to be banned from Wikipedia, before Jimbo banned them. My reason, of course, was because I was concerned about truth changing. I think that truth changing is a big deal and is the biggest problem with Wikipedia. Paying someone to edit articles, in my opinion, represented truth changing.

With that being said, the whole reason that Wikipedia is able to encourage truth changing is with regards to 2 rules: WP:NPOV and WP:OWN: both theoretically impossible to enforce and in practice cause a lot of problems. They are also wrong! Bias is a good thing, and furthermore articles should be controlled by experts on the topic. As I now understand it, this is what MyWikiBiz is all about: allowing people to write articles about themselves, or their companies. This is a good thing. If Wikipedia did this, then truth changing wouldn't be an issue. If people write things about themselves, of course they are biased and they may even be false in some ways, but at least then you can account for the biases, and get to the truth of the issue. That is the issue with Wikipedia - we don't know who has inserted the lies.

You can tell with the Port Arthur massacre article on Wikipedia that what is written is blatantly false, but you don't know who is responsible. It took me ages to work it out, and ultimately it was controlled by Robert Merkel since 2002, with help from various others including Tannin, and then ultimately taken over by Thebainer, who added disinformation. But you wouldn't know that from looking at the history. It takes hours to piece it all together as to how it happened. Even once put together, the article that explains the truth changing in that one individual article is enormous. Yet that is one of the most obvious and devastating examples of truth changing that is out there, and on an issue that I am personally an expert on. What hope do others have in finding out about truth changing on other topics?

Look, WR needs redoing. If a new site was created that then became more popular, then that would be a good thing. I hope that you invite me along, but that is your choice. I won't insist on it. I tried to make a new one, but of course I have no way to talk to people to get it going, so I can't. I just hope that it adds to the good things of WR, not detracts from them. Blissyu2 23:54, 11 October 2008 (PDT)

Thanks for your input, Blissyu2. What was the alternate site that you tried to launch? -- MyWikiBiz 05:38, 12 October 2008 (PDT)

I wanted www.wikipediacritics.com, but after I told Somey that I wanted the freedom to launch that and to advertise it on WR as our compromise, Somey turned around and registered that domain name and made it redirect to Wikipedia Review, just to be nasty. I set up a ProBoards site, but it is not the same, since I can't advertise it. I really want to have Wikipedia Review run like it was in the beginning, before all of the power trips. I don't think that it needs any change, it just needs to go back to what it was like to start with. Well, perhaps a few changes. For one thing, I wouldn't allow any anti-critics people in at all. Obviously some of the current staff at WR would not be made staff if it was run properly, but some of them would stay staff too, depending on how they got to be staff really. But when something is stolen, it is really gone, and there isn't much I can do but to try to advertise the truth of it. Much like how WR couldn't change Wikipedia, all it could do was to warn people about its dangers. It is all a bit depressing really, since that's the 2nd site I ran which got stolen from me at the peak of its popularity, and then run into the ground. Blissyu2 06:44, 12 October 2008 (PDT)

Just for the record, Selina grabbed wikipediacritics.com and redirected it, not me. She also grabbed several other domains, as Daniel Brandt has revealed here, and whether or not she did it "just to be nasty" is anyone's guess. (It's anyone's guess as to how long that link will work, btw.) The only domains I'm currently squatting on are critizendium.org and knolreview.com, neither of which redirect to anything. I'll probably let them both expire after their year is out, in case anyone wants them. Somey 01:05, 30 October 2008 (PDT)

More stuff

I added this, which is of your hand but not on MWB, I think. Ockham 09:13, 13 October 2008 (PDT)

Added to this: Worst of Wikipedia tho' not sure if that was what was intended. Otherwise Unencyclopedic articles (Wikipedia) could be another place. This is all part of a longer project to support a media campaign. I have a couple of invitations to write something, but it all needs to be carefully document, I hope this is an acceptable place. Ockham 09:51, 14 October 2008 (PDT)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome, Greg. In case it isn't obvious, I am Mndrew of the Wikipedia Review. AndrewM 23:23, 23 October 2008 (PDT)

your message

Thanks for your message, Greg. I've responded on my user talk page.Proabivouac 19:05, 26 October 2008 (PDT)

So fast!

Did y'all get a server upgrade? I can actually click around at near wikipedia speeds! I think I might be back. My lack of patience and school/work/social was keeping me away but If you have any bring projects to under take my winter break starts in a few weeks. Maybe finish Karl's vision of a php content creation bot or at least get google to like us again. For some reason centiare had way better SEO than MWB.

Garrett 10:19, 23 November 2008 (PST)