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[03:08] <PontoCom_BR> hello.
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[07:19] <PontoCom_BR> bye, people.
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[15:32] <Reguyla> I was just reading a disucssion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee about editors who have left due to the Arbcom
[15:33] <Reguyla> Durova was another example and IMO the reason there are no tracking methods for editors who have left due to the Arbcom is A) the Arbcom does not care about who they drive away from the project, especially editors
[15:34] <Reguyla> and B) because it would show everyone that the Arbcom is a net negative and does more harm than good for the project, as though that would be much of a surprise
[15:35] <Reguyla> the Arbcom hasn't been about benefitting the project for a long time The Arbcom is now merely an agenda pushing mechanism for those who manage to conive and politic their way into it
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[15:36] <Reguyla> Most of the members rarely edit and are politicians rather than editors and those few who did edit stopped once they became admins and could act as "owners" over whatever pet project and content they wanted controll of
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[15:39] <Reguyla> Arbitration enforcement, Discretionary sanctions, complex and legalistic processes, controlled page edits, forcing the community to go to them to desysop their fellow admins, all these are just a few of the things the Arbcom does top push their agendas and control the ENWP community
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[15:40] <Glaisher> Please keep this channel nice as always. :)
[15:40] <Reguyla> Their most important tool is fear fear of being blocked or banned. Fear of retaliation without process and fear that they will be shamed in front of the community if anyone stands up to their corruption and abusiveness
[15:40] <Glaisher> You can rant at -en. :P
[15:40] <Reguyla> Arbco blocked me on -en
[15:40] <Glaisher> An IRC arbcom?
[15:41] <Glaisher> That's news to me.
[15:41] <Reguyla> No but they thin they are
[15:41] <Reguyla> It goes back to the fear thing, they block on IRC as an extension of what they want on ENWP and if anyone counters it here, the Arbcom retaliate on ENWP
[15:42] <Reguyla> So no one will undo something they do here because it still extends to the wiki
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[15:42] <Reguyla> Anyway I'm done. No one really reads this channel anyway
[15:43] <Glaisher> Thanks.
[15:43] <Reguyla> I just post occassionally here so the channel gets some use.:-)
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[15:44] <Reguyla> I need to go due some edits at Commons and Wikidata where the ENWP Arbcom do not yet have any control
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[15:45] <Reguyla> and cannot ignore community decisions as they did with my block review on ENWP
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[15:46] <Reguyla> BTW for what its worth I would have voted support on both Rich Farmbrough and Cyberpowers RFA's
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[18:36] <Headbomb> could an admin please db-move https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_TUGS/Article_alerts
[18:36] <Headbomb> it's fairly urgent in that there is a bot run going on and it needs to be deleted before the bot edits it
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[19:36] <The_Photographer> Where I can see the all iso language list with the language writeen in itself language, for example 'ary'           : 'الدارجة',
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[19:53] <The_Photographer> there are a language "bad",, of course sure Banda-Sprachen (Ubangi-Sprachen) !,
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[19:55] <The_Photographer> this list is a good begin, however is small
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[20:39] <Johnny69> Hi all
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[23:22] <rankpete> Hello. It comments for the first time. Your channel is seen always happily. Was the holiday pleasant? I cannot speak English. so that comment was written using the translation tool. Please do your best from now on. I am looking forward to updating chats in the distant place.
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